Syl, I cant tell you how many times ive contemplated leaving PAM for that exact reason. but i can't, because people like you and i are the life of PAM, the hope that it will one day get better. every time a good person leaves, the light at the end of the tunnel gets a little bit dimmer, and PAM gets closer to collapse. without people like us, PAM would die out very quick. not to mention you are one of the only reasons i still come on PAM. i watch from the shadows of the spectator alley at all times, and only step into the light when i see a friend or need to help. -TomKat