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a986ae There roleplay manners. You could start a roleplay where you get everyone who joins to agree that because this is your roleplay they have to oblige to everything. That way the power depends on peoples respect of your rules. If people are humane and have enough respect to follow the rules, its better than just your ability to think up things.
4ce3fc Maybe, someone can always just make somethings thats "better than this ability" but by that point, it doesnt matter anymore
db965b [Ekusukariba] itd be a never ending war or the quickest war ever]
4ce3fc yeah pretty much bmo
a986ae well now that i think about it theres alot of better versions of the perspective/Euclid ability that are actually better than perspective/Euclid
4ce3fc But I find it a bit silly how for our "true god" of our fiction work, its pretty much always omnipotence via the creator themselves
a986ae so we've both just given names to creative freedom
4ce3fc But then again, the moment you try to impact a fiction where the "Perspective" is in, it is already considered as fiction, and blah blah blah its the same gist.
a986ae i came up with Euclid a while ago, back when i was working on my Superhero Fictional Universe.
4ce3fc Perspective is the ability of a creator in the real world, fictional ability or not, it is merely just a representation in fictional form,
a986ae yeah perspective is just you changing things because you can do that by typing something into this title bar. thats it.
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4ce3fc You have managed to replicate exactly how i described "Perspective" although in different terms, its practically the same
a986ae but to fictional characters Euclids power is above anything they could possibly do.
4ce3fc I hope you can see what "Perspective" is by what im implying, bmo
a986ae its a self insert lol. and since Euclids power is just knowing everything, creating everything, and having control over everything, and since Euclid is just a person in the real world, theres nothing there is to do about it. Its not a fictional power its just creative freedom.
561012 ngl i would say something but i would be absolutely squandered by the wave of philisophical paragraphs.
4ce3fc Exactly, thats why its called "Perspective". Its your own perception of the ability that changes how it works, even if someone else sees otherwise.
a986ae well no, danger. Euclid is just how fictional characters view, well, me.
a986ae theres a problem with that tp, no one can change something fundamental about how we view our creations because that would require a fictional shift. what youre describing is a power thats literally just the creativity of the creator. no one can fundamentally change something that is in your mind unless they effect your neurons irl.
4ce3fc What you did there Bmo, is basically just TP's ability in an application, creating a character that transcends fiction.
a986ae its called euclid and i cant really draw it so heres a symbollic representation. its how fictional characters that gain omnipotence view what seems to them to be an infinitely higher dimensional being that constructs all. in reality its just whoever imagined that universe. since they have full control over what fictionally exists and not because its all their idea construct, they are above fiction in all aspects.
4ce3fc Even if I say Perspective is an ability that shifts perspective on any ability, anyone could just introduce a weakness that TP can only change what he sees, and cause a lost for TP because of that. How we imagine these fights is exactly how perspective works anyways
4ce3fc Thats really the point, bmo. It doesnt matter, because how perspective works is how fiction works, we create and do whatever we want with any character, even if people say otherwise, theres nothing stopping us from making a character have this or do that
a986ae ok so i DO have a character that could beat tps ability.
a986ae see i would continue to introduce my characters, some of which represent just a being with creativity creating everything in the real world and therefor the controller of fiction, but you could just say "its still fiction so i negate it" i could have a character that has your power negated by saying its also fictional but you would say mine was negated first or mine doesnt work because its fiction and yours somehow isnt. i could make an apple that just deletes tp and his ability forever. theres nothing logical about this.
4ce3fc perspective is basically how we create characters and our works,
db965b [Brahxes] [cheese]
4ce3fc thats the truth of perspective. perspective works because thats how fiction works
db965b [Brahxes] [-slams cheese wedge-]
a986ae its the "i killed you with a fireball" and "well no im a powerful wizard that blocks the fireball with my magic sheild and eats it" problem from childhood all over again
a986ae in the end theres no physical constraints stopping us from saying that our characters power transcends all, which is why tps power works, but theres nothing stopping someone from making something else and saying that it is better than tps ability and negates it. even if both of you go back and forth with the "nuh uh "yuh huh" forever, because theres nothing there stopping you it would just be a stalemate, even if you think it isnt. in the end, all of this is fiction unless one of us goes to the others house and does something in the real world.
4ce3fc funnily enough, thats really the point, because it doesnt matter, neither for tp or any character
4ce3fc perspective makes that fundamental rule an ability that enstates it, bcause those abilities would never truly be fiction transcendence.
a986ae tp your characters ability to shift dimensional perspective is based off of fiction. your character isnt real. it is also an image and text on a post. anything you say for other characters also applies to your character. you could make an entire tp cosplay irl but it wouldnt be tp it would be you cosplaying as tp.
4ce3fc that the ability itself doesnt have to work because there are ni true rules that bound any character to an abilities ruleset
a986ae for instance i have an object called a Negation Chamber. its very annoying. it negates anything you do. if you roleplay that you escape it, its negated and never happened. you can continue roleplaying as if you escaped but it never happened. You could go offline or stop the roleplay and it would be negated. anything that you do and continue to do will be considered a fake alternative reality. psychological or such.
4ce3fc Not really, all-fiction and stuff like that doesn't matter, because not only will the abilities not work, but it functions on a fundamental truth of fictional works.
a986ae well then by that logic your characters power can also be negated by said "transcends fiction" powers since yours also has roots in fiction
4ce3fc claiming to be transcendimensional of dimension planes doesnt mean in the eyes of perspective, you're just a 2d text and drawing.
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