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0257e5 this wasnt a normal conversation the moment you entered your debate beep boop mode, and i wasnt saying its common so its good, I was saying its common so you cant generalize everyone who does it, you can generalize certain behaviours with addictive things because they literally do cause it to happen most definitely unless youre like immune. sure dude we should just stop eeeeverything you see as reckless or think causes people to be reckless for our own enjoyment we should neeeever partake in these activities who would dare get a nose piercing man thats so fucked up like oooooh youre gonna do drugs next ooooooh

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d6a35f alright i think i got it but it looks like a cast. actually i think that's fine

d6a35f glawg how do i do tHESE WRAPS

e0a7ba Its pretty much over john

35dc76 i should probably come back later when this conversation argument thing is over

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e0a7ba But go ahead and say im insane instead of addressing my points like a normal conversation

e0a7ba AND i said changing your appearance for the purpose of uniqueness/selfexpression correlates with irrational decision making. I did not say “self expression links to irrational decision making” you’re literally twisting my words.

e0a7ba “I just dont have it” i dont think you really mean that because not only have I provided a valid point that you are misinterpreting, but you know for a fact I am a rational and intelligent person. And yes, body modifications isn’t as bad as drinking or drugs. The purpose of comparing them is because you said “body modifications is common” so i shut down the logic in using that as an argument.

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d6a35f how the fuck are you guys still discussing this

0257e5 like i am not talking to you anymore about this because next youre gonna tell me hair dye leads to depression

0257e5 no its common sense you just dont have it, those psychological negative effects youre talking about dont effect most people who get, in context to what I'm talking about, piercings and tattoos, to even 1/10th of the amount addictive substances do, so I dont see the point in comparing them to one another,and saying self expression leads to a harmfful mindset is also just crazy like what are you on about, its not inherent in the slightest and brings body positivity for most, i have to cut the grass but bmo you genuinely sound insane

e0a7ba Overall, the action of making oneself appear more different than everyone else for the purpose of uniqueness and self-expression links directly towards an altered and harmful mindset.

e0a7ba And yes pepper the majority of people who get body modifications for the purpose of style DO apply to my argument, so it is more an “everyone thing” than it isnt.

e0a7ba You’re using the argument of physical negative affects matter and psychological negative affects don’t. Just how porn completely ruins the human brain, so does perpetuating irrational decision making through things like body modification. You refused for me to provide scientific studies on what I’m saying because it’s “common sense” but the fact that we’re in disagreement proves that it isn’t common sense.

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0257e5 talking about me using things that are way more serious look at you

0257e5 what you detailed is not an everyone thing and not even a most people thing the other things you mentioned actually screws with your brain using chemicals

e0a7ba So does body modifications as i just detailed

0257e5 smoking is addictive, alcohol is addictive and both lead to serious diseases, sex is also addictive and screws you mentally

0257e5 smoking and drinking and sex have actual negative effects

14e409 I lost track of what's happening. Is Pepper just yapping.

e0a7ba Smoking, drinking, and sex for fun are also mainstream. What is your point.

0257e5 but then you realize tattoos and piercing are mainstream so you cant always jump to that conclusion, which you were by implying that if someone close to me did that automatically I should put them on a list of hazards to look out for otherwise I do not care for them

e0a7ba The main issue is something as simple seeming as a body alteration for the purpose of style further SUPPORTS that mindset of recklessness and quick action without thought. Anything that you are able to do without “consequence” will further develop the ideal that lead to that action. Perpetuating the need further.

e0a7ba Pepper you’re missing my entire point. It’s not the body modification itself that is harmful, even though alot of them have unnecessary risk, it’s the decision making skills of the person leading to said body modification that is concerning. People who get body modifications tend to be more reckless, they don’t think things through, and they are quick to act on impulse. The more concerning side of things is that people with trauma have a very large tendency to get body modifications. It’s a negative thing in and of itself, but the more concerning aspect of it is that it’s an indicator of more serious things.

0257e5 its not that big of a decision, you'd have a argument for it being a long term decision if you were talking about something like plastic surgery and shaving down your nose bone because those are actually hard to fix, these are not

8048ed anyways so like here's this site if you want drawing ideas or something. if you have an adblocker you NEED. to use it here because i'm pretty sure this site has a fuckton of Useless Advertisements (i think): https://www.primalastrology.com/primal-zodiac-by-combination.html

0257e5 Waltuh, Im not having a tiktok argument with you right now waltuh, Im telling you youre being dramatic because its not as serious as you try to make it waltuh

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8048ed these questions are certainly something. and i know it's not the time to say this but i woudl rather just do that

0257e5 Do I care if he has a tattoo? No, I do not. I care for my brother, but a tattoo isnt harming him and in your own words, if he doesnt want it anymore "they can be easily removed."

e0a7ba That’s cool, how does that perpetuate your point

8048ed how it feels to be in a sex ed. class when most of the sexual biology terms are funny to like 90% of your classmates

0257e5 except its not, my brothers a grown man with a tattoo, im close with him

e0a7ba Notice how i detailed the “someone close to you” part to try and show you the irrationality in what you where saying.

14e409 Yeah I have been trying to not pull a Kalfton. It hasn't been easy.

0257e5 in response to me saying i wouldnt care if someone got a tattoo