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fb3c0a but anyways this can be like. abruptly halted with a "how about no". but the people arguing aren't the type of people to realize they're going headfirst into an argument and just say "no fuck this"

fb3c0a if you tried to believe me when i said that deaths can spark from a "how was your day?", how much would it take you to? i believe a lot.

d2509e Good job pepper you confused the metaphorical “animal” with the biological “animal”

d2509e Because pepper has been holding animosity towards me for my mindset and i asked why he was being animous and it divulged into this

b234bc "My point is we arent animals"

185fa5 Icouldeasilybewrongandmaybedidn'tgobackfarenoughbut

185fa5 I don't mean to intrude or like, intercept but how did all of this chain off from a video game stream question

d2509e Gng we are animals with a moral conscious layer. We want to survive and reproduce just like any other organism except the best way for us to live is to be selfless instead of selfish

d2509e Pepper when he realizes that thinking a concept is stupid but not thinking the people who participate in that concept are doing something wrong makes no sense

b234bc How are you going to talk about how we arent animals and then complain that it "isn’t a biological mindset"

b234bc The difference is you’re actually imposing your ideals I'd never judge someone for actually marrying and I can still think marraige is a scam

d2509e Anyways pepper to summarize: polyamory takes extreme patience, structure, effort, and dedication, much more than one on one relationships, and almost every single one in modern day society is not built with this in mind and is approached with a “fun” and expirimental mindset which literally almost allways leads to failure which is why I do not support the normalization (normalization as in comparison and perpetuation of its use and appliance) especially within my close social circle since it isn’t a biological mindset but rather a social idea that can spread.

b234bc Thats not a contradiction critiquing the way society raises people doesn’t mean rejecting every behavior that exists inside it. I can think the system is flawed and still believe people have the right to explore and learn within it. plus I was mostly joking if I had the power to I would never actually wipe out everything, just donald trump and his cronies.

d2509e Pepper its strange how a bit ago you where saying everyone is stupid and the world is wrong and we should be resetting society and raising people correctly and now you’re defending the very same systematics and ideals that you where painting as wrong a while ago

d2509e Yes pepper i view dating culture as immoral and something to avoid i wonder how you came to this conclusion

b234bc Then under this lens you view almost every human being on the planet earth as someone to be wary of and that's insanity

fb3c0a ok but when does it cycle back again to " do you want to watch me play Undertale". or does it end like this

d2509e Amazing result pepper now you know why we shouldnt be normalizing an unhealthy mechanism and instead fixing the original cause of that mechanism

b234bc "You don’t figure anything out yourself" Great you understand that you need things to learn

702957 nvm, imma go play l4d and just stop spectating until the dust settles.

d2509e No pepper my point is dating to figure yourself out is wrong and if its because you never learnt that stuff as a kid then we shouldnt be normalizing the dating to figure yourself out and instead fix the learning it as a kid

702957 You guys are way off track regardless. Besides, you guys are wasting each other's time with arbitrary ideas to outsmart the other.

d2509e You don’t figure anything out yourself pepper if you have a bad home enviornment you grow up with bad ideals if you have a good home enviornment you grow up with good ideals and your following enviornments determine your experiences and mindsets.

b234bc are we about to go back onto the asexual people shouldnt be dating route

d2509e And yes using relationships to “develop” emotional awareness is a dysfunctional and unhealthy process

b234bc If there is SPARSE good enviroments what are they supposed to do other than figure it out thereself

d2509e Tell me pepper what should we see as normal and try to normalize; imperfect dysfunctional coping mechanisms for when there is a bad home environment, or healthy functional coping mechanisms for when there is a bad home enviornment.

b234bc Which is basically no one

d2509e Then that person lives a shittier life than someone who does

702957 I think we should go back to Ancient Rome.

b234bc And no you're not blaming it on poly ideologies

b234bc But there isn't, now what?

702957 "Youth is wasted on the young,"

d2509e Im not saying someone should choose to grow up in a good enviornment because thats impossible and stupid i’m saying there SHOULD be a good environment in the first place and allow for emotional intellect to be established

021ac0 That's under the assumption that their parents have a healthy relationship in the first place. That's not always the case.

b234bc And it shouldnt because childhood is ass

d2509e Literally almost all of your ideals and values stem from your childhood social sphere pepper

b234bc “You dont need to learn through experience you should just grow up in a perfect environment instead.” People learn by doing. Thats literally how growth works. You can’t “think” your way into understanding connection you experience it, you mess up, you learn.

d2509e If a child matures in an environment with emotionally intelligent adults that communicate openly, healthy relationships that show mutual respect and empathy, moral guidance that values honesty, responsibility, and compassion, they will literally grow up knowing what they value and what they want from people in a relationship.

b234bc Finding out what you want out of a relationship without ever being in one is nigh impossible

702957 Uh, the arguement is really cool and very interesting to the RP channel.