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024523 [Unfathomable Origin]

157bfc Anyways, two PAM giants are gone, i am the alpha male now.

157bfc Ngl... Ekun and bmo beef is so fucking fire.

024523 [Andre] [ back, but its dead, so i take my leave]

024523 [Ekusukariba] [brb]

024523 [Andre] [tension reducing yoin to the rescue]

024523 [Andre] [ and im gonna end this before it gets out of hand for such a stupid reason ]

35dc76 food aquired, im gonna go to sleep, or at least attempt to, all this yelling might be a problem

024523 [Andre] [ i hate ai art for a surface-level reason, then you overthink it and fail to understand it because it is a said surface-level-reason, your brain is looking for a deep iceberg reason ]

024523 [Andre] [ and also you making this much deeper than it needs to be, is what is making things difficult to explain because i suck at explaining things, especially when it comes to my opinions because my brain proccesses things differently than yours, i look at the wide spectrum and see all the colors, you focus on a single wavelengths and explain why "this specific -blank- is special" ]

024523 [Andre] [ your overthinking my opinion on AI art. look at the reasons others hate AI art, similar to mine but your making my opinion, your arguement ]

024523 [Andre] [you are failing to understand my point though, i hate ai because it copies off of humans homework. and because it dont make sense to you, you think things too deeply, for once just look at the surface like what a normal person would look at my point ]

ff21a2 I just told you how it relates to the conversation exactly, how it deviates your point. You told me why you hate ai art, I told you why it doesn't make sense.

024523 [Andre] [dude for once, shut up bmo. Im talking about one thing and you made this entirely about another thing, just stop for a moment, you arent always right, yes you may be one of the smartest on pam if not ARE the smartest. but it dont mean you are always in the right.]

ff21a2 This is like saying "i dislike people who rob and are rich, so im going to enable people who rob and are poor" both are bad, you shouldn't support one that is "less" bad just to compete with the one that is more bad.

024523 [Andre] [HHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

57dac4 Thanks *Nom nom nom*

ff21a2 If your reasoning to hate ai art is semi-based on the fact that people expect you to pay them to make ai art, then you should also, by logic, dislike paying artists. But you don't so your logic is flawed.

ff21a2 Again it's still on topic because it addresses the fact that you are willing to financially pay an artist to make art. Just because its more stupid to pay an ai prompter to make "art" doesn't mean it isn't stupid to pay an artist to make art.

35dc76 uh sure. i says before thundercunting the popcorn bucket across the room directly at arca

024523 [Andre] [ "Id rather give credit to someone who makes mediocre art but took their time to make it, than to pay a person who did a 3 step process of input prompt>save generated image>share image, id rather support a REAL artist than someone who labels themself as an artist but posts ai slop" ]

57dac4 Can I have some of that popcorn, John?

024523 [Andre] [ your the one who started making this arguement off-track starting here https://pixelartmaker.com/art/5c6641c866e5ec8 and before you say anything, before this post i was saying this AND I QUOTE ]

ff21a2 The point is expression should not be economic.

ff21a2 and yes there are actually useful jobs for art, such as literature that helps develop the mind or wood work that helps make chairs. but "oc commisions, 10 dollars for a sketch!" is not an economic necessity and is therefor a sinkhole for money.

ff21a2 this is still on topic, this whole thing is reflective of the fact that you are willing to pay an artist to make art

024523 [Andre] [ art is different, art can be a hobby, and it can be a job, because there are actual jobs for artists. your making this off topic yourself, this was originally about how i hate ai but your making it about everything else. ]

35dc76 sitting in the corner eating popcorn just watching this whole conversation

ff21a2 dont "dude" me your argument is wack

ff21a2 the fact is just because someone can does not mean they should be allowed to. You still have yet to explain to me why people should feel obligated to having art as a job and should feel offended that ai is going to "steal" that job.

024523 [Andre] [ dude ]

ff21a2 your "some people want it that way" argument does not apply. Some people want all jews to be dead, some people want the poor to stay poor and the rich to overrule everything. So "some people want art to be a job" is not a valid argument for it to be a job.

024523 [Andre] [ I never said people cant make art unless its for profit, im saying people can make art a job if thats what they want, it dont need to but if they want to make profit off of their own art, they can]

024523 [Andre] [ and Ai will never make art until AI becomes human themself. ]

ff21a2 and yet you have to explain to me why art needs to be a job

024523 [Andre] [ this arguement was about how i hate ai. thats how it started. ]

024523 [Andre] [ that is why i hate ai, because "Ai copies other human classmate's homework" ]

024523 [Andre] [ no matter what art is needed in economics anyways, money spent on entertainment is money spent on a form of art, just in visualized form, AI cant replace this because some people want to make jobs out of art, people do this all the time. Fictional stories, movies, cartoons, simple art, music. It can be all jobs and some people want it that way, whether or not you want to call it waste of money or not, AI cant replace these jobs because real artists prevent ai from taking it. but then its a loop of ai learning off of all forms of art because AI has no restrictions on what it can learn, only can be limited to how much it can learn and what it can say if the company has hardwired limitations in ]

ff21a2 If it's going to be a continuation of what you where just saying it won't be on topic

024523 [Andre] [ anyways back to what i was saying ]